diff --git a/kdelibs.spec b/kdelibs.spec
index b6b2f84..05335dd 100644
--- a/kdelibs.spec
+++ b/kdelibs.spec
@@ -16,7 +16,7 @@
 
 Summary: KDE Libraries
 Version: 4.5.85
-Release: 3%{?dist}
+Release: 4%{?dist}
 
 Name: kdelibs
 Epoch: 6
@@ -185,18 +185,14 @@ Libraries for KDE 4.
 %package common
 Group: System Environment/Libraries
 Summary: Common files for KDE 3 and KDE 4 libraries
+# some files moved kdebase-runtime -> here
+Conflicts: kdebase-runtime < 4.5.80
 %description common
 This package includes the common files for the KDE 3 and KDE 4 libraries.
 
 %package devel
 Group: Development/Libraries
 Summary: Header files for compiling KDE 4 applications
-# stuff moved, help upgrade path
-%if 0%{?fedora} && 0%{?fedora} < 13
-Conflicts: kdebase-workspace-devel < 4.3.80
-Obsoletes: kdelibs-experimental-devel < 4.3.75
-Provides:  kdelibs-experimental-devel = %{version}-%{release}
-%endif
 %if 0%{?fedora} && 0%{?fedora} < 15
 Obsoletes: webkitkde-devel < 0.0.6
 %endif
@@ -529,6 +525,10 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot}
 
 
 %changelog
+* Fri Dec 10 2010 Rex Dieter <rdieter@fedoraproject.org> -  4.5.85-4
+- -common: Conflicts: kdebase-runtime < 4.5.80
+- drop some old pre-f13 era Conflicts
+
 * Fri Dec 10 2010 Kevin Kofler <Kevin@tigcc.ticalc.org> - 4.5.85-3
 - fix FindQt4.cmake when there's also qt3-devel installed (#661996)